Tea Party Boise – April 15th…And A Couple Of Comments

boiseteaparty* Back from the Boise Tea Party, I was stunned by how many people were there.  I will post some more images on another page on the site.

-OMB

Just  a PSA for our local Tea Party folks who have worked hard to put this together, please visit the Tea Party Boise site for details.

I left some comments on tax policy over on their blog so I thought I might as well post them here as well.   I kind of went on another 17th amendment diatribe…

You know, I’ve heard a lot of debate over what the appropriate method of taxation, as a replacement to our current system, would be. Whether it be the ‘fair’ or ‘flat’ variety really doesn’t matter. The problem with these approaches is that they both legitimize current level of taxation! There is no justification for the Federal government to taking in excess of 20% of GDP in federal taxes and any replacement system that continues this level of taxation, i.e. is ‘revenue neutral’ as the proponents claim, will be just as egregious and will have the same negative consequences that the current system has for the economy. More importantly, the discussion of how the government takes our money distracts from the real problem we face and really doesn’t do anything to address it – out of control federal spending.  Why does the federal government pursue these spending policies? The answer is simple – because they can, and it is in their interests to do so. So, was the system the Framers set up flawed? No, it wasn’t. Unfortunately, we haven’t lived under that system since final ratification of the 17th Amendment, which put the composition of the Senate into the hands of the general population instead of in the hands of the State houses.

The Framers realized that each house of Congress needed to serve a separate agenda. The House of Representatives would be selected by the people and represent the populist agenda, the Senate would be elected by each State’s legislature which bind the State houses directly into the Federal system and ensured that the practicalities of running the States was represented within the national legislative process. Ever heard of the ‘unfunded mandates’ resulting from our federal budget process? These would never occur with the Senators responsible to the State legislatures for reelection.
As it stands, we basically have two bodies in congress with the same agenda – getting re-elected. We may as well close the Senate and have one big house of representatives. This is what has made the lobbyists so powerful in Washington D.C.. It would be very difficult for lobbyists to influence members of all state houses to elect a particular Senator to serve their agenda.
So, when John McCain was running around prior to McCain-Feingold saying ‘the system is broken’ he was right – but he didn’t have a clue as to why. The system was broken during the particularly shortsighted administration of Woodrow Wilson, who also saddled us with the 16th Amendment, authorizing the federal income tax system, and the Federal Reserve Act. You may disagree, but Federal spending as a percentage of GDP was a constant 3-4% as far back as 1875, after reconstruction up to 1917. The government lived within its means because it had to do so. You can look at the charts, the 17th amendment was finally ratified in ~1916 and federal spending has been heading up in a linear fashion ever since. And yes, the income tax was passed at this time, but spending and tax policy have been disconnected since the inception of these two Amendments. One has little to do with the other. The spending side can’t be fixed until the 17th amendment is repealed and the system is restored to it’s original structure.
I have some links and a couple of articles on the impact of the 17th amendment on my website, libertybunker.com.
Having said all of that, I do plan on attending the Tea Party in Boise, but people need to do the root cause analysis here and work to fix the system, not just replace it with another that is destined to fail because it doesn’t address the underlying structural issues that have caused the great majority of our deficit spending problems.

A couple of comments on the Tea Parties in general.  I see this as a movement grown out of a growing sense of frustration and disenfranchisement on the part of many taxpaying Americans who’ve just had enough and can’t make sense of the path of reckless spending and bailouts.  I share that sentiment.  I’m just a little alarmed when I see Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich, in my opinion, co-opting the movement to their own ends.  My take on Newt was he had his chance, he did some good – but not enough!  And I honestly believe the last thing that this truly populist movement needs is an national media spokesman/cheerleader like Glenn Beck.  (I can take him in small doses, but on the whole, I don’t have a favorable opinion of him, believe it or not).

Newt has habit of riding whichever horse is winning to push his big tent, centrist Republicanism.  It’s not that I don’t agree with him on some things, but he always seems to be offering his own type of big government as an alternative to the Communists – er, I mean Democrats.  Beck is a shameless, constantly self-promoting, pseudo-conservative that, in my opinion is somehow trying to make himself out as the defacto tea party movement leader, issuing statements like ‘Please, don’t make this about Obama or I can’t  support it’, or ‘its not a Democrat( Communist) or Republican thing’.  Whatever Glenn – just so long as you don’t get a picture snapped of you attending the tea party in San Antonio with anti-Obama sign in the background.  Worried about those ratings, huh?

I say who gives a rat’s ass if he ‘can support the tea party movement’?  He didn’t create it, and in many ways, Obama did create this movement!  Why shouldn’t people express discontent over the path Obama has taken?  Obama is an extremely polarizing individual.  He should know that people are upset with his actions if that’s their motivation to attend the tea parties.

Anyway, I’m going to go check it out and maybe snap a few pictures.

-OMB

13 Comment(s)

  1. why not protest this? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/offshore-tax-havens-a-sta_n_186640.html

    or is it acceptable because it is just corporations doing what they do? don’t forget to look at the table…

    Fluffy | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  2. Fluffy,
    I’ve got a better idea. Why not eliminate all corporate taxes? That will take care of off shore tax haven problem and create growth in our economy and jobs as companies from around the world look to relocate their corporate operations to the U.S.
    -OMB

    omb | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  3. interesting, but as i can see how willing these corporations are now to reinvest in America and pay their fair share for the commons that help them succeed, somehow i don’t have much faith in anything but their greed, and i fear that although people might have jobs, we would all be working for five dollars an hour in our own third world country.

    Fluffy | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  4. I really wish I could have attended the event in Boise! How did it end up going?

    BBF | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  5. BBF,
    Great turnout. Stay tuned, I’ll be posting some pictures on the website!

    omb

    omb | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  6. From the article at Huffington I pulled this- “In a speech on Tuesday, Obama talked about “shutting down loopholes and making sure everyone pays what they owe.” Does that include his cabinet you think? Doesn’t seem as if he can find anyone who pays their taxes!

    EAP | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  7. Fluffy,
    Corporations are people invested in a common pursuit of profit, nothing more. So, I can only surmise that you think people are inherently greedy. However, neither do I believe that setting a minimum wage benefits anyone other than the politicians- it devalues the currency, period. I could explain it to you if you’d like, but really, would it matter? I think corporations pay the wages that maximize profits, if somebody thinks that they are worth more money, they are free to go get the corporation or someone else convince them to pay them more – except of course in a unioin environment. My own philosophy is that you are worth that for which you are willing to walk the door in the morning, and not a penny more. Nobody holds a gun to anyone’s head in this country anyway to work a job. Establishing a minimum wage is purely inflationary.
    I’m not a free trader, I think Friedman was wrong about this. I believe that we need sane, fair trade laws that do not allow us to import goods from countries that employ slave or forced labor. I believe that Nixon’s biggest screw up was opening trade with China. If we followed sane policies with respect to trade, most of the jobs that have left would still be in the States.
    -OMB

    omb | Apr 15, 2009 | Reply

  8. To kind of steal a line from Michelle Obama: This is the first time, since “O Great One” has taken office, I am really proud of the people of the United States to be heard around the country at the many “Tea Parties” today. I too took part in a “Tea Party” & it was refreshing! Thank you to all that were able to attend across the USA!

    nibbler | Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

  9. we do agree on some trade issues, most definitely. bring back tariffs. about corporations; if they are merely people trying to make profit, nothing more, then let them pay taxes like i do. they use more of the infrastructure, the court system, and all the commons than i will ever. let them pay their “rent” on these things as persons, if they want their “personhood”. end these offshore shelters. it is a disgrace that dick cheney, who as v.p. of this country should be a patriot, moved his company offshore after getting all those no-bid contracts…then to dubai! we are being raped by corporatist/politicians. they are one-in-the-same anymore. i have no beef with corporations in general, but the government is being run by nothing more than boards of directors making policy in their own interests. . do a little cross referencing sometime…it might shock you.

    Fluffy | Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

  10. Just a thought about the Tea Party news here-ABC reported yesterday morning that the President was not aware of the tea parties. Do you think he is aware now? (They did lock down the White House when some protesters threw tea onto the lawn). Or is he,as the liberals used to say about Bush “out of touch with the american people”?

    EAP | Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

  11. Fluffy,
    You should read Pat Buchanan’s book, “Day of Reckoning”, I think you would find yourself agreeing with Pat on quite a few issues.
    -OMB

    omb | Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

  12. EAP,

    That is comical! Yeah, I’m sure he had no idea they were going on. Seems like with all of these ‘right wing radicals’ hitting the streets they might have been mentioned in the Homeland Security daily briefing?

    -OMB

    omb | Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

  13. OMB,
    My reading list is already too long, but I have listened a lot to Pat Buchanan, and have heard him make some good sense.

    Fluffy | Apr 17, 2009 | Reply

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